Senate debates

Thursday, 13 February 2014

Questions without Notice

Ministerial Staff: Code of Conduct

2:18 pm

Photo of John FaulknerJohn Faulkner (NSW, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is directed to the Assistant Minister for Health. Can the minister confirm that the assistant secretary to the Department of Health with responsibility for the health star food-labelling initiative was contacted directly by telephone by her chief of staff on 5 February last week, demanding that the food labelling website be removed? Can the minister confirm that the same official was removed from that position six days later, on Tuesday of this week?

2:19 pm

Photo of Fiona NashFiona Nash (NSW, National Party, Assistant Minister for Health) Share this | | Hansard source

Yes, I can confirm that a discussion took place between my chief of staff and Kathy Dennis regarding the removal of the website. That was on my direction. That was, as I stated to the Senate earlier, my decision—to have the website removed. The question relating to the position of Ms Kathy Dennis would need to be directed to the secretary of the department, as the senator well knows.

2:20 pm

Photo of John FaulknerJohn Faulkner (NSW, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. Can the minister confirm that she personally contacted a deputy secretary level officer of the Department of Health on 5 February, instructing that the food labelling website be removed; and, in relation to this matter, did the minister, her chief of staff or any other member of her staff at any time express concern or dissatisfaction to any official of the Department of Health about the actions of other departmental staff?

2:21 pm

Photo of Fiona NashFiona Nash (NSW, National Party, Assistant Minister for Health) Share this | | Hansard source

I can confirm that discussions took place with departmental officials. I can confirm that I spoke to a deputy secretary. I can confirm that I made no observation about the actions of staff and, as the senator would well know, I am not going to comment on hypothetical discussions that may or may not have taken place between my staff and those in the department. I take the opportunity to remind those opposite that I have very clearly outlined that there is no conflict of interest between my chief of staff and his role.

Photo of John FaulknerJohn Faulkner (NSW, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. When was the minister informed about staff changes in the healthy living and food policy branch of the Population Health Division of the Department of Health? If she was informed, who informed the minister? Is there any formal record of such communications? Minister, I ask you to take on notice and report back as soon as possible to the Senate in relation to communications referred to in my previous question relating to your chief of staff and other staff members. (Time expired)

2:23 pm

Photo of Fiona NashFiona Nash (NSW, National Party, Assistant Minister for Health) Share this | | Hansard source

I can indicate to the chamber that my knowledge of changes in staffing arrangements in the department came at the same time as everybody else, with a very general email that was sent from internal department emails advising of the change. I had no direct knowledge nor, indeed, was I told directly by the department about the changes in the staffing arrangements. I found out at the same time that the general issue was devolved to many individuals.