Senate debates

Tuesday, 17 November 2009

Questions without Notice

Asylum Seekers

2:34 pm

Photo of Eric AbetzEric Abetz (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship, Senator Evans. Can the minister tell the Senate how much it is costing Australian taxpayers to keep the ‘floating solution’, the Oceanic Viking, in Indonesia?

Photo of Chris EvansChris Evans (WA, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Government in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

Firstly, let me say that the responsibility for the Oceanic Viking, its supply and its costs is obviously with the Minister for Home Affairs.

Photo of Eric AbetzEric Abetz (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

Oh dear, oh dear.

Photo of Chris EvansChris Evans (WA, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Government in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator, if you are not smart enough to ask the right minister, do not whinge to me. You want to interject—

Photo of Chris EvansChris Evans (WA, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Government in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

I will try to be helpful but not if you are going to interject, Senator.

Photo of John HoggJohn Hogg (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Evans, have you finished your answer? Answer the question. Continue your answer.

Photo of Chris EvansChris Evans (WA, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Government in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

Can I indicate that, even though I am not the relevant minister, I will attempt to assist the senator. It is the case that the costs associated with the operation of the Oceanic Viking under the customs and border protection portfolio. As has been indicated, in this year’s budget we made provision for extra days for the Oceanic Viking to operate in our northern waters if required and that was part—

Opposition Senators:

Opposition senators interjecting

Photo of John HoggJohn Hogg (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! The time for debating is after question time.

Photo of Chris EvansChris Evans (WA, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Government in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

I was trying to be helpful. Let me indicate that those costs will obviously be reflected in the accounting of the Customs and Border Protection Service when they are available. We will make them available as soon as possible.

Photo of Eric AbetzEric Abetz (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. Can the minister confirm that the cost to Australian taxpayers of keeping the ship in Indonesia with the 56 illegals still on board is in the region of $2,500 per person per day?

Photo of Chris EvansChris Evans (WA, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Government in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

No, I cannot confirm that. As I indicated, I am not the responsible minister. Senator Abetz made the mistake of asking the wrong minister and therefore he will not get the sort of detail that he is after. But can I indicate to him that that is probably a lot cheaper than keeping them on Nauru.

Photo of Ian MacdonaldIan Macdonald (Queensland, Liberal Party, Shadow Parliamentary Secretary for Northern Australia) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Ian Macdonald interjecting

Photo of John HoggJohn Hogg (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Order, Senator Evans, Senator Macdonald—it is disorderly. I am waiting to hear Senator Abetz’s question.

Photo of Eric AbetzEric Abetz (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. Given that the Prime Minister’s personal staff were involved in the special deals in an attempt to remove the illegal entrants from the Oceanic Viking, what was the minister’s role? Did the minister seek the approval of the Prime Minister’s office to sign off on the deal?

Photo of Chris EvansChris Evans (WA, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Government in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

The first questions were asked of the border protection minister. Mr President, I presume the senator is referring to me in the supplementary, but it has no bearing on the original question.

Photo of Ian MacdonaldIan Macdonald (Queensland, Liberal Party, Shadow Parliamentary Secretary for Northern Australia) Share this | | Hansard source

Don’t you represent the Prime Minister?

Photo of Chris EvansChris Evans (WA, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Government in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

Is the question of me, Senator, or the customs and border protection minister? I just want to be clear.

Photo of John HoggJohn Hogg (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Continue to answer the question as best you can, Senator Evans.

Photo of Chris EvansChris Evans (WA, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Government in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

All right. Mr President, the first point I would make is that this is not a supplementary. But the answer to the question is that the arrangements entered into for processing of the persons when they disembark from the Oceanic Viking were determined by the Border Protection Committee of cabinet, a working group which I chair. In terms of processing, the details were as a result of my department looking at what was possible and looking at the normal processes and relationships with regard to the UNHCR’s role. (Time expired)