Senate debates

Wednesday, 19 March 2008

Questions without Notice

Square Kilometre Array Radio Telescope

2:43 pm

Photo of Eric AbetzEric Abetz (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to Senator Carr. I refer him to his embarrassing and rambling answer yesterday. Can the minister inform the Senate exactly how much new money the Labor government has committed to the new square kilometre array, or SKA, telescope bid?

Photo of Kim CarrKim Carr (Victoria, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Innovation, Industry, Science and Research) Share this | | Hansard source

I want to thank the shadow minister for his interest in the SKA. It is belated but welcome. It is, of course, unfortunate that the opposition felt that they were not able to support this project. It is unfortunate, from their responses yesterday, that they felt it necessary to belittle this project.

This is a major piece of scientific infrastructure. This is a project of immense importance which this government has determined to pursue with vigour. This is a project which the former government failed to pursue with any vigour and which the former minister for science failed to embrace. This is a project that the former minister chose to ignore, in fact, because the former minister did not appreciate how significant Australia’s role in radioastronomy is, did not appreciate how significant this piece of infrastructure will be to world astronomy, did not appreciate the leading role that Australian radioastronomers have and did not understand the industrial and research implications for this project. Professor Brian Boyle, as an example, through CSIRO has led a team that has been able to demonstrate that to the world. Recently in Germany we signed a memorandum of understanding with the Max Planck Institute

Photo of Eric AbetzEric Abetz (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr President, I rise on a point of order to do with relevance. I asked a very simple question: how much new money has the Labor government put into this project?

Photo of Alan FergusonAlan Ferguson (President) Share this | | Hansard source

I did listen carefully to the question. I am struggling to find some relevance in the answer. Senator Carr, I would draw your attention to the question.

Photo of Kim CarrKim Carr (Victoria, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Innovation, Industry, Science and Research) Share this | | Hansard source

It is obviously difficult for the opposition to come to grips with the fact that the world understands that Australia has an important role to play in this bid to secure this very important piece of infrastructure.

Photo of Nick MinchinNick Minchin (SA, Liberal Party, Leader of the Opposition in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Minchin interjecting

Photo of John FaulknerJohn Faulkner (NSW, Australian Labor Party, Cabinet Secretary) Share this | | Hansard source

You put 49,000 other bits of dollops of money in too, Nick.

Photo of Alan FergusonAlan Ferguson (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Faulkner, the question was asked of Senator Carr, not you, so I think you should let Senator Carr answer it.

Photo of Kim CarrKim Carr (Victoria, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Innovation, Industry, Science and Research) Share this | | Hansard source

As you can see, Mr President, I take some relish in answering it. I would have thought that an answer like this should have gone through the government’s tactics committee because it is the sort of question we enjoy answering. It demonstrates that this government is committed to international collaborations on major pieces of research infrastructure. It is true that the previous government did undertake some projects in this area. However, the previous government failed to acknowledge the role of the SKA in terms of its pursuit of international collaboration. It failed to appreciate the significance of this piece of infrastructure. It failed to understand just how significant this piece of infrastructure is for industry and for manufacturing in terms of skills development. This is a project which will last for 50 years; it is a 50-year commitment. This is a project which Australia is uniquely suited to pursue, although I note that the international community will have to choose between Australia and South Africa. So the bid is quite important. I invite the opposition to support the government in its determination to secure this project for Australia.

Photo of Eric AbetzEric Abetz (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. It ought to be asked of the ‘Minister for Imitation’ because I remind him that the only money that has been committed to this project has been the $105 million committed by the former coalition government. I have a media release from former Minister Bishop indicating exactly that. Is the minister aware that trying to take credit for someone else’s work, plagiarism, is one of the most serious crimes for a scientist or a researcher to commit? Has the minister sought approval from the former science minister, Ms Bishop, to regurgitate her work and take credit for it? As Ms Bishop would say, ‘You’ve been a very naughty boy, Senator Carr, very naughty.’

Photo of Alan FergusonAlan Ferguson (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! Senator Carr, if you have any further comments you wish to make, you may.

Photo of Bob BrownBob Brown (Tasmania, Australian Greens) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr President, I rise on a point of order. I ask that you check standing order 73 in light of the question and the subsequent question to see whether they comply.

Photo of Alan FergusonAlan Ferguson (President) Share this | | Hansard source

I will check, Senator Brown. I am quite sure that the initial question complied. I am not quite so sure about the supplementary question.

Photo of Chris EvansChris Evans (WA, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Government in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

I am not sure overacting is the same as a question.

Photo of Alan FergusonAlan Ferguson (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Evans, that can apply to members on either side of the chamber. Senator Carr, do you wish to add anything further?

Photo of Kim CarrKim Carr (Victoria, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Innovation, Industry, Science and Research) Share this | | Hansard source

I do not think Senator Abetz should try humour; he is not good at it. He ought to stick to what he is good at, and that is rolling his leader.

Photo of Alan FergusonAlan Ferguson (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! Senator Carr, that is not relevant.

Photo of Kim CarrKim Carr (Victoria, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Innovation, Industry, Science and Research) Share this | | Hansard source

In all seriousness, this bid is extremely important in terms of global scientific infrastructure. This is a project for which $117 million has been provided. We are working with the government of Western Australia to enhance that and additional sums of money have been allocated for that. There is a major international forum to be launched on 9 April in Western Australia with Premier Carpenter. I will be participating in that and we will be pursuing this bid with all the vigour that the Australian government can muster. I would invite the opposition to support this bid. (Time expired)