Senate debates

Thursday, 30 March 2023

Bills

Safeguard Mechanism (Crediting) Amendment Bill 2023; In Committee

9:02 am

Photo of Jonathon DuniamJonathon Duniam (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Environment, Fisheries and Forestry) Share this | Hansard source

After that shameful adjourning of debate last night, when we were all prepared to go so late into the evening—

'Family friendly' says Senator White; well, we could talk about that. But let's talk about the bill before us and the question before the chair, which I think is extremely important. There was a high degree of interest last night in the modelling. We could get nowhere on that. We kept getting stonewalled by this Labor-Green government and their inability to be transparent about things—the facts, the figures, the assumptions, and the modelling that underpins the actions this government is taking to, they tell us, assist with driving down emissions. I don't think they'll be driving them down; I think they'll be driving them offshore. But we're going to just park that for a moment.

I want to go to one of the second reading amendments that the government agreed to a couple of days ago, I think, in this semi-protracted yet guillotined debate on this legislation. It was Senator Thorpe's second reading amendment, of which I have a copy here, and it was the one around First Nations verification, amongst other things. I just want to understand. It was the one relating to the requirement for scope 3 emissions to be offset in the Beetaloo. Firstly, Minister, what consultation has the Australian government had with the Northern Territory government about this change?

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