Richard Colbeck (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Minister for Aged Care and Senior Australians) Share this | Hansard source

A significant difference. It's not completely true that there are no financial records available for the expenditure in aged-care facilities because the publicly listed companies' records are reported publicly. So if you're interested in some of that detail, go and have a look there. It's true for many that it's not. That may very well form part of the recommendations of the royal commission, which will be brought down on 9 November this year.

The difference in what you're talking about and the reforms we're undertaking goes to the answer that I gave Senator Keneally earlier, and that is that the combination of ACAT—I refute the terminology being utilised by those on the other side with respect to privatisation, because I don't believe that that's the case. That is not what we've said publicly; it's what the media have said and what others have said. This follows on recommendations of the Carnell-Paterson review and, in fact, the royal commission.