Senate debates

Thursday, 28 June 2018

Bills

National Security Legislation Amendment (Espionage and Foreign Interference) Bill 2018; In Committee

5:13 pm

Photo of Zed SeseljaZed Seselja (ACT, Liberal Party, Assistant Minister for Science, Jobs and Innovation) Share this | Hansard source

There's nothing you pointed to that in any way would, under any scenario, constitute illegal conduct. You've pointed to some of the definitions—foreign principals and the like—but it's about what then happens on behalf of, for instance, a foreign principal. Are you sabotaging things? Are you undermining Australia's national security with intent or recklessness? I'm not seeing any actions that you've pointed to that could in any way, shape or form be covered by this legislation. There would have to be some clear and specific action that's covered under one of the offence provisions that would engage the legislation, but there's nothing you pointed to there that would.

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