Amanda Vanstone (SA, Liberal Party, Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs) Share this | Hansard source

The leader demonstrated by embarrassing himself in the last fortnight that he did not understand the program or the figures that he was using. What I was saying to Senator Ludwig, who does have an interest in this matter, a longstanding one—and I think he does understand the issues—is that I will have a look at what he said and I will report to him later.