House debates Questions without Notice
Tobacco Control
Mary Aldred Monash, Liberal Party
2:55 pm
My question is to the Prime Minister. You have now refused on five occasions in question time to answer whether you will cut the tobacco excise. This morning on the Today show, you dodged it again. Why won't you give Australians a straight answer? Will you cut the tobacco excise, yes or no, Prime Minister?
Milton Dick Speaker
Just before we move to the answer, I didn't want to interrupt the member for Monash, but I would prefer you not use the term 'you' and you direct remarks through the chair, just as the standing orders advise.
Mark Butler Hindmarsh, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the House
2:57 pm
I thank the member again for her question about reversing excise increases that have taken place over the last number of years. Under this government—
Mark Butler Hindmarsh, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the House
there has been just under a 40 per cent increase. Under the former government, there was a 215 per cent increase to excise, all of it trousered by the government—not a single dollar into enforcement, not a single dollar into public health campaigns. At the same time, disposable vapes were allowed to flood into this country and flood our schoolyards. And now they want to bring them back, because we've all heard parents saying, 'Gee, I wish vapes were brought back to our schoolyards,' haven't we! 'Oh, gee, I wish the vapes were brought back into the hands of our school—
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Hon. Members:
Honourable members interjecting—
Milton Dick Speaker
Order! We're going to pause. I can't hear. There's too much noise. If that continues, people are just going to be removed immediately. Everyone's clear? The wall of noise is unacceptable.
Mark Butler Hindmarsh, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the House
I know the member comes at this from a good position. We might disagree on some detail. She, like every member of this House, wants to find a way to fight the criminals. She wants to find a way to fight the fact that, over a number of years, there has been a very big increase in the illicit tobacco market.
Now, we took the view, unlike those opposite when in government, that we needed to boost our enforcement resources, we needed to give the ABF vast additional resources to stop the flood, initially of vapes and then of illicit tobacco, and we've started to do that. We've also taken the view that we need to work in cooperation with state governments. Those opposite didn't do that. We've taken a very different view. Particularly, there are some states leading the way. I've mentioned them. There's Queensland, under the LNP, and the South Australian government. We're very pleased that the bigger states are coming to the party as well.
And, as I and so many other ministers have said, of course this government is open to other sensible ideas about how we can fight organised crime while not prejudicing our most important public health campaign. But this is the problem I have with the announcements that One Nation first made—and then, sure enough, led by the nose, the coalition followed.
Milton Dick Speaker
The minister will pause. The manager on a point of order?
Dan Tehan Wannon, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction
It goes to relevance, Speaker. The question didn't mention the opposition. It sought a straight answer from the Prime Minister on whether you're going to cut the—
Milton Dick Speaker
Resume your seat. The minister has concluded his answer.
Honourable members interjecting
Order! We don't need the commentary every time we conclude an answer. Everyone show some restraint.