House debates Questions without Notice

JobMaker Hiring Credit

Thursday, 12 November 2020 House of Representatives

Anthony Albanese

Anthony Albanese Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition

2:12 pm

My question is to the Prime Minister. Will the Prime Minister guarantee that no worker will be sacked or have their hours cut for cheaper workers with a hiring credit?

Scott Morrison

Scott Morrison Cook, Liberal Party, Prime Minister

The protections were set out in the protections that sit underneath the bill, and that's why they're in place—

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Hon. Members:

Honourable members interjecting

Tony Smith

Tony Smith Speaker

The member for Gorton is warned.

Scott Morrison

Scott Morrison Cook, Liberal Party, Prime Minister

They're in place to achieve the outcomes that the Leader of the Opposition has set out. I will ask the Minister for Industrial Relations to add further to the answer.

Christian Porter

Christian Porter Pearce, Liberal Party, Attorney-General

2:13 pm

It is a very important question. What this chamber and the dispatch box should not be used for is to send the wrong message to any employer or business that they might be able to do something which, at law, they clearly should not be doing. The general protection provisions in the Fair Work Act, which include all casuals, include general protections against adverse action, such as dismissal or a reduction in hours on the basis of a protected attribute or age. An employer who contravenes the general protections could face significant civil penalties of up to $13,320 for an individual and $66,000 for a body corporate. They might also be required to pay compensation. Why would Labor be using this dispatch box to suggest to employers that they could do something that they clearly cannot and should not do and for which there are very serious penalties if they ever were to do it?

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Tony Smith

Tony Smith Speaker

Members on both sides! I guarantee I'll start ejecting people in a second.