House debates Questions without Notice

Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction

Wednesday, 4 December 2019 House of Representatives

Mark Butler

Mark Butler Hindmarsh, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Climate Change and Energy

2:54 pm

My question is to the Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction. At 12.45, the minister failed to comply with a Senate order to provide any evidence backing his claim that the fraudulent document he used to attach the Lord Mayor of Sydney was downloaded from the City of Sydney website. Will the minister provide that evidence now?

Tony Smith

Tony Smith Speaker

Just before I call the minister, I'm going to say that any questions can be answered, but, as a matter of principle on behalf of all members of the House of Representatives, there is absolutely no obligation to comply with a Senate order. That's an important principle. Indeed, there have been requests in the past that members of this House appear at Senate hearings. Former Prime Minister Keating responded more colourfully than I am now.

And I'm just going to say on behalf of all members of this House: the Senate has no business seeking members of this House to comply with anything they seek to do. As you can tell, my attitude to the first part of the question—

Mr Gosling interjecting

The member for Solomon, if you want to go and be a senator, go for your life. The member for Hindmarsh, on a point of order?

Mark Butler

Mark Butler Hindmarsh, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Climate Change and Energy

Thank you for that clarification. I wonder if I could reword the question.

Mr Frydenberg interjecting

Tony Smith

Tony Smith Speaker

No. I'll just say to those opposite, if I were—

Mark Butler

Mark Butler Hindmarsh, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Climate Change and Energy

Criticism about hair from the Treasurer!

Tony Smith

Tony Smith Speaker

If I were the Treasurer, I wouldn't mention hair at this point in time.

Mark Butler

Mark Butler Hindmarsh, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Climate Change and Energy

I'm gobsmacked!

Tony Smith

Tony Smith Speaker

Let's just change the topic or we'll all be in trouble. I didn't say that the question was out of order. It was just important, as the Speaker, on behalf of members of this House, to say that we are no more going to comply with Senate orders or appear at Senate committees. There's no compunction. The last part of the question was in order.

Angus Taylor

Angus Taylor Hume, Liberal Party, Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction

2:57 pm

I'll always cooperate on matters of this sort. I tabled a statement in this House last week. It was a statement from 25 October and, as I have repeatedly told the House, I absolutely reject the scurrilous allegations from those opposite. They are so transparent. They seek to distract from their woes with gossip and smear, because they don't want to talk about how emissions have fallen in the last year and are lower than at any time Labor were in government. They don't want to talk about three consecutive quarters of electricity price reductions.