Peter Dutton (Dickson, Liberal Party, Minister for Home Affairs) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

I thank the honourable member for her question. It is true that the Australian public demand of their government certainty around national security providing protection to Australians. We can only do that if, indeed, we have secure borders. So the government has worked day and night to clean up Labor's mess—50,000 people who arrived on 800 boats. The Labor Party put people on Manus Island. They put people on Nauru. They put kids into detention. It has taken many billions of dollars and many years to clean up. You would have thought by now that the Labor Party had learnt their lesson. But, clearly, with the flip-flop approach of the Leader of the Opposition they have not. It is clear that, had the Labor Party been successful at the last election, even though the former leader of the Labor Party had a much tougher stance and a much more coherent policy proposal in relation to border protection policy—

Bill Shorten (Maribyrnong, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

You didn't say that before the election!

Peter Dutton (Dickson, Liberal Party, Minister for Home Affairs) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

I didn't say that at the time, as the member for Maribyrnong points out. I'm being generous to him now because—

Mr Albanese interjecting—

you are making him look very good. That's my point. That's my whole point. Come in sucker! You make him look like the dream leader. You don't stand for anything! And no wonder—

Ms Butler interjecting—

Tony Smith (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

The minister will resume his seat. The member for Griffith will cease interjecting. The member for McEwen is seeking to raise a point of order.

Rob Mitchell (McEwen, Australian Labor Party) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

On a point of order. You might ask the minister who continually does this to actually refer his remarks through the chair.

Tony Smith (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Yes, the member for McEwen makes a good point. The minister thinks he's abusing the Leader of the Opposition. He's actually abusing me when he uses the word 'you.' I don't take it personally, but the minister has the call.

Peter Dutton (Dickson, Liberal Party, Minister for Home Affairs) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

I was thinking that it was only the Leader of the Opposition who had an incoherent position on the Labor Party side when it comes to border protection. But, as it turns out—oh, he's a little sensitive!

Tony Smith (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

The minister will resume his seat. The Leader of the Opposition on a point of order.

Anthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

On relevance: I know he's a bit obsessed, but maybe he can refer to the 4,000 times he's used his ministerial intervention powers.

Tony Smith (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

If the Leader of the Opposition—no, the minister will pause actually. It was an irrelevant point of order. If the Leader of the Opposition wants an answer to that question, he'll just need to ask it. The minister has the call.

Peter Dutton (Dickson, Liberal Party, Minister for Home Affairs) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

Thank you, Mr Speaker, and I'm happy to answer it, because do you know what those visas were issued for? To get people out of detention that you put into detention. That's what I did. Ninety-five per cent of those cases were people that you put into detention. I got them out of detention and I gave them work rights as well—

Tony Smith (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

The minister will pause.

Peter Dutton (Dickson, Liberal Party, Minister for Home Affairs) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

in the community.

Tony Smith (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

The minister's microphone's off. I'm just going to remind the minister: if he'd just refer to members by their correct titles, he'd avoid the problem he's slipping into. The minister has the call.

Peter Dutton (Dickson, Liberal Party, Minister for Home Affairs) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

I was drawn to some comments last week by the member for Watson, who doesn't have a proud record. He used to be the immigration minister in the glory days of the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd government period. As it turns out, there were 6,600 people who arrived on his watch. So, imagine my surprise last week when he was out there saying it would be in 'the national interest' for people who had come by boat to settle in our country. It's strange because, at the time when he was minister, he ran a $37 million advertising campaign—

Tony Smith (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

The minister knows the rule about props.

Peter Dutton (Dickson, Liberal Party, Minister for Home Affairs) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

saying: 'If you come here by boat without a visa you won't be settled in Australia.' Nobody can believe a word the Labor Party says when it comes to border protection. They haven't learnt a thing since Kevin Rudd was Prime Minister. In actual fact, when you look at the succession of Labor leaders, this one is the worst and most incompetent leader when it comes to border protection that the Labor Party's ever seen.

Tony Smith (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source

The minister's time has concluded.