House debates

Tuesday, 16 June 2015

Questions without Notice

Pensions and Benefits

2:47 pm

Photo of Bill ShortenBill Shorten (Maribyrnong, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister said before the last election—on nine occasions, right up to the Friday night before the election—that there would be no change to pensions. Why is the Prime Minister breaking his promise to 330,000 full and part pensioners?

2:48 pm

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

We are proposing no changes to pensions until after the next election. The changes that we are proposing will make the pension fairer and sustainable.

They will make it fairer, because they will give 170,000 pensioners with modest assets an extra $30 a fortnight, and more sustainable because we will take away the part pension from millionaires who own their own homes and who have a million dollars in assets in addition to that. We are happy for those people to keep the Commonwealth Seniors Health Card, because we appreciate that they have worked hard and saved. But our position is that we should not have millionaire part pensioners.

Photo of Alannah MactiernanAlannah Mactiernan (Perth, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

Well, why didn't you say that going into the election!

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Perth will desist! The member for Perth is warned!

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

If anything could more clearly indicate the wonky moral compass of the contemporary Labor Party it is denying a pension increase to people with modest assets so that millionaires can keep a part pension. That is what they are doing; they are denying an increase in the pension of $30 a fortnight to people with modest assets so that millionaires can keep a part pension. That is what they are doing.

What has happened to the once-great Labor Party that they have found themselves in this terrible position where even the Greens are more economically responsible than they are? That is the position that the Labor Party finds itself in now. They would rather leave millionaires with a part pension than do the right thing by people with modest assets. This is the extraordinary position that the contemporary Labor Party finds itself in. What it all means is that the Labor Party has lost its way. The Labor Party has lost its way, because this man is no leader.

2:50 pm

Photo of George ChristensenGeorge Christensen (Dawson, National Party) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Minister for Social Services. How does the government propose to provide a fairer and more accessible pension? And what are the alternatives to this approach?

Photo of Scott MorrisonScott Morrison (Cook, Liberal Party, Minister for Social Services) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank the member for his question. The answer is that first of all you need to recognise that the pension is a safety net. It is a welfare payment. It is a welfare payment to support and help those who are most in need. That is what it is about. It is a welfare payment for those who need it most.

That is why this government has brought forward measures that will ensure that no longer will someone be able to receive a part pension when they have $1.15 million worth of assets in addition to their family home. That is what these changes will do. What they will also do is to ensure that those who are on low and modest levels of assets will receive an increase in their pension—some 170,000 Australians on the pension and with low and modest levels of assets—of $30 on average per fortnight. And there will be 50,000 additional full pensioners as a result of this change.

And those opposite are voting against that. They are actually voting to sustain part pensions for those with assets of over $1 million in addition to their family homes and denying a pension increase for those on very modest levels of assets. I can tell you why they think that. They think that the pension, on welfare payments, should just go to everybody. They think welfare is a universal thing because they are the welfare party. The Prime Minister says that they are not the workers' party anymore because workers are saving for their retirement. And when they get into their retirement, we are going to make sure that their hard-earned savings in their superannuation will not be the subject of the tax slug that those opposite want to impose, because we understand that when workers save all their lives they build a nest egg for themselves. Those opposite see it as a tax nest—a tax nest for those to plunder.

The shadow minister earlier referred to 'trousering'. The 'trouser bandit' sits over there because he, together with the shadow Treasurer, wants to come after the hard-earned superannuation savings because they do not understand that the pension is not superannuation. The pension is a welfare payment for those who really, really need it. Superannuation is something that people have worked and saved for. They have saved for it. It is their money. And when they have saved, when they have worked, when they have run businesses—

Mr Brendan O'Connor interjecting

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Gorton will leave under 94(a).

The member for Gorton then left the chamber.

Photo of Scott MorrisonScott Morrison (Cook, Liberal Party, Minister for Social Services) Share this | | Hansard source

and when they have got up every day to go and do their job, what they have done is provided for their retirement. What we are asking those people to do, who have got to that position, is to do just that and live off the earnings and of their hard-earned savings. What we will do for them is: we will not tax them like the 'trouser bandit' opposite.