House debates

Thursday, 27 November 2014

Questions without Notice

Minister for Defence

2:30 pm

Photo of Bill ShortenBill Shorten (Maribyrnong, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Prime Minister.

Photo of Christopher PyneChristopher Pyne (Sturt, Liberal Party, Leader of the House) Share this | | Hansard source

Madam Speaker, on a point of order: is it in order, while you are admonishing the opposition, for the members for Grayndler and Hunter to actually be interjecting on you as the Speaker?

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The answer is no, and there shall be no more of it.

Opposition members interjecting

All three of you perhaps should consider your positions.

Photo of Bill ShortenBill Shorten (Maribyrnong, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Prime Minister. The Minister for Defence has failed our Defence Force men and women by cutting their real wages and conditions, including Christmas and recreation leave. If he will not say sorry for cutting the real wages of our Defence Force men and women, why won't you just sack him?

2:31 pm

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

No-one regrets more than I do that we cannot afford to pay people more at this time. No-one regrets that more than I do. I have been to Defence base after Defence base over the last 14 months. I have visited our defence forces in all sorts of different contexts. I deeply respect—nay, I revere—our defence forces. No-one is more deserving of the best possible deal than our defence forces.

But it comes a little ill of the Leader of the Opposition, who helped to put us into the parlous fiscal position that we are in, to complain about the necessary consequences of the situation that he created. This is someone who not only knifed two prime ministers but played a large part in the economic policies of the former government which gave us debt and deficits stretching out as far as the eye can see.

Photo of Mr Tony BurkeMr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Finance) Share this | | Hansard source

Madam Speaker, on a point of order: surely on a question about our Defence Force the Prime Minister can be relevant.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The question was a very wide ranging one and, when asked for action which is anticipated by the Leader of the Opposition as appropriate, the Prime Minister is perfectly entitled to answer it.

A government member interjecting

Photo of Joel FitzgibbonJoel Fitzgibbon (Hunter, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Agriculture) Share this | | Hansard source

He is interjecting again, Madam Speaker, while you were speaking.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Hunter, who was also interjecting, can leave under 94(a).

Photo of Joel FitzgibbonJoel Fitzgibbon (Hunter, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Agriculture) Share this | | Hansard source

Madam Speaker, the Leader of the House was making a point of order complaining that members were interjecting on you while you were speaking. He has done nothing but—

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member will resume his seat and leave under 94(a.)

The member for Hunter then left the chamber.

Photo of Mr Tony BurkeMr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Finance) Share this | | Hansard source

Madam Speaker, a point of order—

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Is the Manager of Opposition Business anxious to join the member for Hunter?

Photo of Mr Tony BurkeMr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Finance) Share this | | Hansard source

No, I am not. But if I have the call I will take a point of order?

Photo of Mr Tony BurkeMr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Finance) Share this | | Hansard source

How is the member for Hunter meant to resume his seat and leave the room?

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

He can do it sequentially. It is quite clever.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

The job of the Minister for Defence is to ensure that our Defence Force personnel have the best possible deal under all the circumstances. I can assure members opposite that no-one in the public sector will be getting a better deal than our Defence Force personnel, because our Defence Force personnel deserve the very best from the Australian people and the Australian government.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Griffith will leave under 94(a).

The member for Griffith then left the chamber.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

They will get much better from this particular government than they did from the last one, which cut $16 billion off them and reduced defence spending as a percentage of GDP to the lowest level since 1938.