House debates

Tuesday, 22 November 2011

Questions without Notice

Carbon Pricing

2:52 pm

Photo of Russell BroadbentRussell Broadbent (McMillan, Liberal Party) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Prime Minister. I refer to the admission last week by the Minister for Climate Change and Energy Efficiency that the Kyoto agreement has collapsed. I quote the minister:

You have to look at the fact that Japan, Canada and Russia have said that they won't be in a second commitment period … That covers maybe 15 to 17 per cent at most of global greenhouse emissions of the second commitment period of Kyoto.

Why won't the government now revise the modelling for carbon tax, which assumes comparable carbon pricing in other major economies from 2015-16?

Photo of Julia GillardJulia Gillard (Lalor, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you very much, and the answer to the question is very simple, because the modelling does not.

Opposition Members:

Opposition members interjecting

Photo of Julia GillardJulia Gillard (Lalor, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

No amount of hysterical laughter changes the facts, as I have explained yesterday and today. I know that the opposition, in order to keep its fear campaign going, needs to keep twisting things, but these are the facts—and I assume that the member who asked me the question is genuinely interested in the facts. The modelling assumes two things. It assumes that nations match the lower end of their commitments. For Australia that is minus five per cent. That is what the modelling assumes. I am sure the member has been talking about this within the Liberal Party. There has been a campaign to try to distort this publicly, to keep providing grist to the mill of the fear campaign of the opposition, but those are the facts of the modelling, and no amount of shouting or asking or re-asking the same question, day after day after day, will change those facts.

I would also say to the member who asked the question: once again, just like the question from the Leader of the Nationals, there is starting to be an implication in these questions that Australia should do nothing. If there has been a change in the position of the opposition—we know that some days the Leader of the Opposition backs in the miners' five per cent target; we know that some days he goes out to public meetings of Australians and describes it as crazy—then I think we should hear about that change.

I would also say to the member who asked the question that, as a long-serving member in this place, he may want to reflect on the fact that every living Liberal leader, including the Leader of the Opposition, has supported a price on carbon. He may want to have that conversation with the Leader of the Opposition, who is on the record as supporting a price on carbon, as is every one of his living predecessors. It is a longstanding Liberal Party position, backed by the Leader of the Opposition himself.

Photo of Russell BroadbentRussell Broadbent (McMillan, Liberal Party) Share this | | Hansard source

I seek leave to table 'Australia with carbon pricing', page 111.

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Is leave granted?

Leave not granted.

Honourable members interjecting

The House will come to order. I want to clarify the way in which leave is given for the tabling of documents: it only requires one member to object to leave being granted and there is no leave granted.

Photo of Russell BroadbentRussell Broadbent (McMillan, Liberal Party) Share this | | Hansard source

I'm shattered.

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

I'm sure that the member for McMillan will recover.