House debates

Wednesday, 17 September 2008

Questions without Notice

National Security

2:44 pm

Photo of Malcolm TurnbullMalcolm Turnbull (Wentworth, Liberal Party, Shadow Treasurer) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is addressed to the Prime Minister. How can the Prime Minister credibly claim to be tough on terrorism when he has today defended the Attorney-General’s reckless remarks, which put at risk the outcome of an ongoing terrorist trial, and then brushed aside, as mere commentary, the grave criticisms of his own Attorney-General by the trial judge himself?

Photo of Kevin RuddKevin Rudd (Griffith, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

There is nothing like the member for Wentworth rising in high dudgeon, I always say. It is a piece of theatre from central casting as confected as the member for Wentworth’s recent discovery of compassion for pensioners—which did not exist as of four months ago.

Photo of Malcolm TurnbullMalcolm Turnbull (Wentworth, Liberal Party, Shadow Treasurer) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, on a point of order: the question relates to an ongoing terrorist trial and the Attorney-General putting its outcome at risk. The Prime Minister might return to the substance of the question.

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Before giving the Prime Minister the call, I will say that the Prime Minister is aware that he has to be relevant to the question. Independent of these things, I want to clarify if this is an ongoing trial.

Photo of Joe HockeyJoe Hockey (North Sydney, Liberal Party, Manager of Opposition Business in the House) Share this | | Hansard source

On the point of order, Mr Speaker: I know where you are going and can assist the House by—

Honourable Members:

Honourable members interjecting

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! This is a serious aspect for the House.

Photo of Joe HockeyJoe Hockey (North Sydney, Liberal Party, Manager of Opposition Business in the House) Share this | | Hansard source

The trial has concluded, but it may be subject to appeal and therefore the comments of the Attorney-General are very relevant and do not represent something that is sub judice.

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

This is the matter that I wished to raise. I indicate to the House that they should be careful about transgressing the sub judice conventions of the House. As I have indicated to the House, I was trying to determine what stage we were at. So far I have been satisfied that, in the narrow way in which the answers have been directed to the question and the narrow way in which the questions have been put, it satisfies the convention so far. But the House should be careful.

Photo of Kevin RuddKevin Rudd (Griffith, Australian Labor Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. The benefit of your intervention just now is to underline the absolute hypocrisy of those opposite. Here we are, debating a matter which they believe—or argue—is of such sensitivity that it should not be the subject of political comment, and what do they do? They make it the subject of political comment. I find it remarkable. The harder the question goes to whether the government is serious about terrorism—

Opposition Members:

Opposition members interjecting

Photo of Duncan KerrDuncan Kerr (Denison, Australian Labor Party, Parliamentary Secretary for Pacific Island Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

You weren’t defending civil liberties 12 months ago!

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The Parliamentary Secretary for Pacific Island Affairs might get the benefit of giving legal advice in the Pacific islands!

Photo of Christopher PyneChristopher Pyne (Sturt, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister Assisting the Shadow Minister for Immigration and Citizenship) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, on a point of relevance: the question does not go to the outcome of the trial. It goes to the comments of the Attorney-General—

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Sturt will resume his seat. The Prime Minister has indicated that he has concluded.

Honourable Members:

Honourable members interjecting

Photo of Harry JenkinsHarry Jenkins (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! I appreciate that the hubbub might not be because the member for Leichhardt has a good following in this chamber, but the member for Leichhardt has the call.