House debates Questions without Notice

Taxation

Tuesday, 19 February 2008 House of Representatives

Stuart Robert

Stuart Robert Fadden, Liberal Party

2:38 pm

My question is to the Treasurer. Does the Treasurer stand by his election commitment to ensure that tax does not increase as a proportion of GDP? Isn’t it the case that this commitment will be broken by the more recent announcement that the government will hoard future increases in revenue?

Wayne Swan

Wayne Swan Lilley, Australian Labor Party, Treasurer

I thank the member for his question. In our five-point plan to combat inflation, to tackle the inflationary pressures in the Australian economy, we made it very, very clear that we would allow the automatic stabilisers to work. It is very important that we put in place a fiscal policy that backs up the monetary policy which is put together by an independent Reserve Bank board. And because, as the Minister for Finance and Deregulation was saying, spending has been out of control, we have got to bring it back into control. We have had the fastest increase in spending in the past four-year period out of any four-year period in the past 15 years. That expansion of Commonwealth demand simply has to be brought under control. That is why we have said that we will set an objective of a surplus of at least 1.5 per cent of GDP in our next budget.

Tony Smith

Tony Smith Casey, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Education, Apprenticeships and Training

They are all going pale again, Wayne.

Harry Jenkins

Harry Jenkins Speaker

Order! The member for Casey!

Wayne Swan

Wayne Swan Lilley, Australian Labor Party, Treasurer

The Commonwealth will provide the leadership that those opposite could not provide in recent years.

Tony Smith

Tony Smith Casey, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Education, Apprenticeships and Training

What about the percentage of GDP?

Harry Jenkins

Harry Jenkins Speaker

Order! I warn the member for Casey!

Wayne Swan

Wayne Swan Lilley, Australian Labor Party, Treasurer

It was interesting watching the ABC last night. The ABC last night showed in all its glory the disunity in the coalition—

Peter Dutton

Peter Dutton Dickson, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Finance, Competition Policy and Deregulation

I rise on a point of order, Mr Speaker: relevance. This is his best answer yet; it is just an answer to the wrong question.

Harry Jenkins

Harry Jenkins Speaker

The member will resume his seat.

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Government Members:

Government members interjecting—

Harry Jenkins

Harry Jenkins Speaker

Members on my right are not assisting. I call the Treasurer.

Wayne Swan

Wayne Swan Lilley, Australian Labor Party, Treasurer

We will pursue our objective of having a surplus, as a percentage of GDP, of at least 1.5 per cent. We will provide the leadership to restrain the spending that those opposite could not restrain. Of course, the former Treasurer is on the record, in the Howard biography, complaining that the previous Prime Minister, in 2004, went on a reckless spending spree—a reckless spending spree that put upward pressure on inflation and upward pressure on interest rates. The consequence of that has been seven interest rate rises in the last three years.

Joe Hockey

Joe Hockey North Sydney, Liberal Party, Manager of Opposition Business in the House

Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order. It relates to relevance. It was a very specific question about tax as a proportion of GDP and whether the Treasurer stood by his previous commitments—a very specific question.

Wilson Tuckey

Wilson Tuckey O'Connor, Liberal Party

Working families are interested!

Daryl Melham

Daryl Melham Banks, Australian Labor Party

Why weren’t you on Four Corners last night, Wilson?

Harry Jenkins

Harry Jenkins Speaker

The member for Banks knows that he cannot be disruptive like that. He has had his one warning for the session. As an urger, he knew he was on thin ice. I call the Treasurer.

Wayne Swan

Wayne Swan Lilley, Australian Labor Party, Treasurer

We have a very specific commitment in this budget process to have a surplus of at least 1.5 per cent of GDP and to keep our commitments over the cycle.