House debates

Tuesday, 12 June 2007

Questions without Notice

Workplace Relations

2:45 pm

Photo of Julia GillardJulia Gillard (Lalor, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is again to the Prime Minister. I refer again to his government’s request for tender for economic modelling. Prime Minister, doesn’t this document reveal your government’s plan to force Work Choices on 100 per cent of working Australians—up from 85 per cent—meaning that 1.5 million employees such as nurses and firefighters will be at risk under your extreme industrial relations laws?

Photo of John HowardJohn Howard (Bennelong, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

Let me take the deputy leader very quietly through this. I ask her to listen very quietly. Let me just point out to her that it does not prove anything of the kind. What our policy demonstrates is that people can have choice. The difference between us and the Labor Party is that, if the Labor Party wins the election, collective agreements will rule the day. They will completely remove the option of AWAs. What we are witnessing—

Photo of Jenny MacklinJenny Macklin (Jagajaga, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Families and Community Services) Share this | | Hansard source

Ms Macklin interjecting

Photo of John HowardJohn Howard (Bennelong, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

is the member for Lalor, the Deputy Leader of the Opposition, grabbing hold of the unexpected opportunity of speaking for the Labor Party—and she has taken every question and directed all of them to me. What she is really doing is saying to the world—

Photo of Jenny MacklinJenny Macklin (Jagajaga, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Families and Community Services) Share this | | Hansard source

Ms Macklin interjecting

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Jagajaga is warned!

Photo of John HowardJohn Howard (Bennelong, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

that, as far as she is concerned, there will be absolutely no backsliding on AWAs. Gary Gray—you all know who Gary Gray is; certainly the former Prime Minister does—may be going around the mining companies in Western Australia

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Manager of Opposition Business in the House) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order with regard to standing order 104. It is a very specific question.

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member will resume his seat. The Prime Minister was asked a fairly lengthy question. He is certainly in order. I call the Prime Minister.

Photo of John HowardJohn Howard (Bennelong, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

People like Gary Gray and others may be going around saying, ‘There is a way through on this, comrade,’ but while the leader is away in Brisbane the acting leader is taking every opportunity to nail her colours to the anti-AWA mast. She speaks for the Australian Labor Party, she speaks for Greg Combet and she speaks for Sharan Burrow. Every question she asks is a further illustration of her visceral hatred of AWAs. I would invite the Acting Leader of the Opposition to explain to those hundreds of thousands of Australians who are far better off under AWAs—

Photo of Bob McMullanBob McMullan (Fraser, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Federal/State Relations) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order. This question specifically referred to the extension of Work Choices

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member will come to his point of order.

Photo of Bob McMullanBob McMullan (Fraser, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Federal/State Relations) Share this | | Hansard source

I am, Mr Speaker; it relates to relevance. This question related to the extension of Work Choices to 100 per cent of employees.

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Fraser will resume his seat. The Prime Minister was asked a question on AWAs. The Prime Minister is answering the question, and the Prime Minister is certainly in order.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Leader of the House) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, when it comes to being out of order, first of all, we have these constant, confected points of order and the Acting Leader of the Opposition, who is constantly interjecting and holding up a document and pointing to it in ways that—

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The Leader of the House will resume his seat. I have already ruled on that point of order. The Prime Minister is in order.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Leader of the House) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I rise on a further point of order. Is it in order for the Acting Leader of the Opposition to constantly hold up a document and point to it? Perhaps she should table it for us.

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The Leader of the House would be well aware that it is not against standing orders to display documents. However, if it is done excessively, as he would be aware, I have taken action. The Prime Minister is in order. I call the Prime Minister.

Photo of John HowardJohn Howard (Bennelong, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

I resume the invitation I extended to the Acting Leader of the Opposition. Instead of reinforcing her visceral dislike of AWAs, perhaps she ought to go to Western Australia and to other parts of this country and explain to people who are thousands of dollars a year better off under AWAs why she wants to destroy their living standards. Perhaps she could explain to the many tens of thousands—

Photo of Wayne SwanWayne Swan (Lilley, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Treasurer) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order on relevance. It was about nurses and firefighters.

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member will resume his seat. That is not a point of order. The Prime Minister is in order and the Prime Minister will be given a chance to answer the question. I call the Prime Minister.

Photo of John HowardJohn Howard (Bennelong, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

I invite the Acting Leader of the Opposition and I also invite the shadow Treasurer to explain to people who are on AWAs why their freedom of choice should be destroyed under a Labor government.