House debates

Thursday, 8 February 2007

Questions without Notice

Private Health Insurance

2:45 pm

Photo of Kerry BartlettKerry Bartlett (Macquarie, Liberal Party) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is addressed to the Minister for Health and Ageing. Would the minister advise the House how the government’s support for private health insurance is taking the pressure off our public hospital system? Is the minister aware of claims that private health insurance costs might rise? What is the government’s response?

Photo of Nicola RoxonNicola Roxon (Gellibrand, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Health) Share this | | Hansard source

Ms Roxon interjecting

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! The member for Gellibrand!

Photo of Nicola RoxonNicola Roxon (Gellibrand, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Health) Share this | | Hansard source

Ms Roxon interjecting

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Gellibrand is warned!

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Leader of the House) Share this | | Hansard source

If the member for Gellibrand had a policy, rather than shrieking across the table, she would certainly be doing better about establishing her credibility.

Photo of Ms Catherine KingMs Catherine King (Ballarat, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Parliamentary Secretary for Treasury) Share this | | Hansard source

Ms King interjecting

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Ballarat is warned!

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Leader of the House) Share this | | Hansard source

I know how important this is to the member for Macquarie, because 75,000 people in his electorate have private health insurance, and they are relying on the Howard government to keep it affordable for them. Thanks to the policies of the Howard government, some nine million Australians now have the security and choice that come with private health cover. This is nearly three million more than under the Keating government, and it includes one million people earning less than $20,000 a year. All of these people have the potential to avoid state Labor’s public hospital waiting list.

Yesterday, the member for Gellibrand said that costs might rise under the government’s planned changes to health insurance legislation. Let me say that Labor are the past masters of premium increases. In 1987, premiums went up 19 per cent under Labor. In 1992, premiums went up 17 per cent under Labor. On average, under Labor, premiums increased by 11 per cent every year compared with just 5.6 per cent since 1996. Let us make it very clear: the member for Gellibrand is not trying to improve private health insurance; she is trying to sabotage it. She once told this parliament that the government should stop ‘pouring enormous amounts of money into private health insurance cover and instead put that money into public facilities’. We are in the mood, it seems, opposite, to repudiate statements, and I ask the member for Gellibrand: will she now repudiate that previous statement of hers? Indeed, I say to the Leader of the Opposition: on the subject of private health insurance, as on so many other topics, will the real Kevin Rudd please stand up? Does he still think, as he once told this parliament, that private health insurance is about the Americanisation of our health system? One day he was a mere staffer; the next day he is the de facto Premier of Queensland. One day he is the philosopher prince of Labor; the next minute, he reads comics for his inspiration.

Photo of Wilson TuckeyWilson Tuckey (O'Connor, Liberal Party) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Tuckey interjecting

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for O’Connor is warned!

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Manager of Opposition Business in the House) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order with regard to standing order 104.

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

I have been listening carefully to the minister, and I am sure he will come back to the question.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Leader of the House) Share this | | Hansard source

I am asking the Leader of the Opposition to resolve where he really stands on private health insurance. One day he is not a socialist and he never ever has been and, the next day, he has been a Christian socialist since Keir Hardy’s time. When will this enigma—

Photo of Anthony AlbaneseAnthony Albanese (Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Manager of Opposition Business in the House) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order: the minister is now defying your ruling.

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The minister is in order.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Leader of the House) Share this | | Hansard source

One minute he thinks that the coalition has tried to commandeer God; the next minute he thinks that Jesus is standing for a Labor Party seat. When will this enigma finally resolve itself?

Photo of Kelvin ThomsonKelvin Thomson (Wills, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Manager of Opposition Business in the House) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The minister was asked whether he is aware of claims that private health insurance will rise. I ask you to draw him back to the question he was asked.

Photo of David HawkerDavid Hawker (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

I call the minister and ask him to come back to the question.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Leader of the House) Share this | | Hansard source

I certainly will, Mr Speaker. Let me just say to the Leader of the Opposition: trying to be all things to everyone will not work. On private health insurance, as on so many other topics, he needs to come clean and say what he really believes. If he does not have a clear position on private health insurance, he does not have any credibility in his bid to lead this nation.