House debates Questions without Notice

Iraq

Monday, 16 October 2006 House of Representatives

Kim Beazley

Kim Beazley Brand, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition

2:23 pm

My question is to the Prime Minister and follows part of the answer he gave to a previous question. Did the Prime Minister previously say that opposing the dictator Saddam Hussein did not in itself justify the war?

John Howard

John Howard Bennelong, Liberal Party, Prime Minister

I said a range of things and so did those who sit opposite. I will return to the speech made by the member for Griffith because it is apposite to this very debate.

Jenny Macklin

Jenny Macklin Jagajaga, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition

Ms Macklin interjecting

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

Order! The Deputy Leader of the Opposition is warned!

John Howard

John Howard Bennelong, Liberal Party, Prime Minister

He said:

This person, Saddam Hussein is no Sunday school, Sabbath school teacher. This is a seriously evil dude. Let us not pretend he is anything other—

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

Before calling the member for Grayndler on a point of order, I will point out that the Prime Minister is entirely in order in answering that question.

Anthony Albanese

Anthony Albanese Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Manager of Opposition Business in the House

Mr President, my point of order goes to relevance.

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

The member for Grayndler will resume his seat. The Prime Minister has only just begun to answer his question. He is speaking to the subject of the question. He is in order and he deserves to be heard.

John Howard

John Howard Bennelong, Liberal Party, Prime Minister

The member for Griffith said:

Three years ago it was the belief of the government, based on intelligence assessments, that Saddam did possess weapons of mass destruction. That was the belief and that was the belief of our coalition partners. It was also my belief, articulated in the major speeches I made at the time, that we should—

Simon Crean

Simon Crean Hotham, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Regional Development

Mr Crean interjecting

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

The member for Hotham is warned!

John Howard

John Howard Bennelong, Liberal Party, Prime Minister

always take into account our close alliance and friendship with the United States in determining our attitude on these matters. I also drew very heavily to attention the evil character of the Saddam Hussein regime. I do not resile in any way from the decision the government took three years ago, nor will I be reluctant in reminding this House that if the advice of the Labor Party had been followed Saddam would still be brutalising Iraq.

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David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

Order! Members are holding up their own question time.