House debates Questions without Notice

New South Wales: Board of Studies

Wednesday, 11 October 2006 House of Representatives

Kim Beazley

Kim Beazley Brand, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition

2:48 pm

I do not know about Gilligan’s Island, but I know about Foghorn Leghorn!

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

The leader will come to his question or he will resume his seat.

Kim Beazley

Kim Beazley Brand, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition

My question is to the Minister for Education, Science and Training. Is the minister aware that the following are currently members of the New South Wales Board of Studies: the President, Professor Gordon Stanley; UTS professor Anthony Baker of the New South Wales Vice-Chancellors Committee; Ms Deborah Lloyd of the New South Wales Federation of P&C Associations; Dr Brian Croke, Executive Director of the Catholic Education Commission of New South Wales; Mr Phillip Heath, headmaster of St Andrew’s Cathedral School; Ms Carolyn Benedet from the Council of Catholic School Parents; or Brother Kelvin Canavan, Director of the Catholic Education Office for Cardinal Pell’s Archdiocese of Sydney?

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Government Members:

Government members interjecting—

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

Order! The leader will come to his question.

Kim Beazley

Kim Beazley Brand, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition

Which one of these would the minister denounced as a Maoist?

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Honourable Members:

Honourable members interjecting—

Bernie Ripoll

Bernie Ripoll Oxley, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Parliamentary Secretary for Industry, Infrastructure and Industrial Relations

Mr Ripoll interjecting

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

The member for Oxley is warned!

Ms Julie Bishop

Ms Julie Bishop Curtin, Liberal Party, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for Women's Issues

The Australian government is not afraid of a debate on education that sees a lifting of standards across the country. The point—

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Honourable Members:

Honourable members interjecting—

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

Order! The minister will resume her seat.

Anthony Albanese

Anthony Albanese Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Manager of Opposition Business in the House

Who’s the Maoist?

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

The member for Grayndler is warned!

Kelly Hoare

Kelly Hoare Charlton, Australian Labor Party

Ms Hoare interjecting

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

And so is the member for Charlton! The minister will be heard. I call the minister.

Ms Julie Bishop

Ms Julie Bishop Curtin, Liberal Party, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for Women's Issues

The point that we have made is that the Australian government wants to see greater national consistency and rising standards in every school across this country. The point that I have raised is that there is a very high level of fragmentation and inconsistency in the development of school curriculum across the country—

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Honourable Members:

Honourable members interjecting—

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

Order! The minister will resume her seat.

Jenny Macklin

Jenny Macklin Jagajaga, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition

Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order of relevance. The question was very straightforward: which of these would the minister—

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Government Members:

Government members interjecting—

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

Members on my right!

Alexander Downer

Alexander Downer Mayo, Liberal Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs

Mr Downer interjecting

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

The Minister for Foreign Affairs is warned!

Anthony Albanese

Anthony Albanese Grayndler, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Manager of Opposition Business in the House

Mr Albanese interjecting

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

Order! The member for Grayndler is on very thin ice. I believe members on my left would like to hear a ruling on that point of order. The Deputy Leader of the Opposition raised a point of order. The question asked by the leader was a lengthy question and the minister has only just begun her answer. The minister is in order.

Ms Julie Bishop

Ms Julie Bishop Curtin, Liberal Party, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for Women's Issues

The focus of the Australian government is to ensure that the state education authorities are held accountable for the curriculum that they develop. We want to ensure that the highest possible standards are achieved in schools across Australia so that, wherever a child attends school in Australia, parents can have the confidence that their children are learning the essentials. That is why we are focusing on literacy and numeracy—to ensure that Australian students are given opportunities in life.

Kelly Hoare

Kelly Hoare Charlton, Australian Labor Party

Ms Hoare interjecting

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

Order! The member for Charlton will remove herself under standing order 94(a).

The member for Charlton then left the chamber.

Ms Julie Bishop

Ms Julie Bishop Curtin, Liberal Party, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for Women's Issues

We want to ensure that the fads, the experiments and the political ideology are out of our schools and that we focus on the fundamentals. The Leader of the Opposition ought to be ashamed at the debacle of the outcomes based education that was implemented by the Western Australian government. This is the kind of experimentation that parents in Australia—

Jenny Macklin

Jenny Macklin Jagajaga, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition

Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The point of order is on relevance. The question was very clear: which of those members would the minister denounce as a Maoist? That is what the question was.

David Hawker

David Hawker Speaker

The minister is answering the question. I call the minister.

Ms Julie Bishop

Ms Julie Bishop Curtin, Liberal Party, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for Women's Issues

The Australian government is committed to ensuring that across this country parents can have the confidence that their children are taught the fundamentals to give them a decent chance in life. We will hold the state education authorities accountable for better educational outcomes.